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		<title>By: Kasapo</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/07/16/subversion-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-54194</link>
		<dc:creator>Kasapo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got the same error. The error (for me) occurs only after I do &quot;svn propedit svn:ignore&quot; and tell it to ignore certain directories (errors/ and sessions/, which contain logs and web sessions). It could be the case that there is a commited file in one of these directories in the master repo, but since I&#039;m ignoring I really don&#039;t care.

This (in my case) is certainly NOT a merge problem. In fact, I&#039;ve never seen that message for merge issues -- I find that either SVN merges gracefully or has a conflict which is resolved manually. 

Either way, I have had a LOT of headaches with SVN that I never seemed to have with Mercurial (hg). 

PS: Doing svn update seemed to work, but it didn&#039;t list anything as being updated. I think that&#039;s silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got the same error. The error (for me) occurs only after I do &#8220;svn propedit svn:ignore&#8221; and tell it to ignore certain directories (errors/ and sessions/, which contain logs and web sessions). It could be the case that there is a commited file in one of these directories in the master repo, but since I&#8217;m ignoring I really don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>This (in my case) is certainly NOT a merge problem. In fact, I&#8217;ve never seen that message for merge issues &#8212; I find that either SVN merges gracefully or has a conflict which is resolved manually. </p>
<p>Either way, I have had a LOT of headaches with SVN that I never seemed to have with Mercurial (hg). </p>
<p>PS: Doing svn update seemed to work, but it didn&#8217;t list anything as being updated. I think that&#8217;s silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Kroki</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/07/16/subversion-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-54038</link>
		<dc:creator>Kroki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 09:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For no obvious reasons SVN keeps on telling me that I am doing something wrong, either the file cannot be committed because it already exists or it does not exist at all. And when I painstakingly reloaded my projects in a new local directory there is no way in the world I can delete the old directory. I have to delete every .svn directory individually by hand. Sdelete from Systinternals (now Microsoft) does not do the trick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For no obvious reasons SVN keeps on telling me that I am doing something wrong, either the file cannot be committed because it already exists or it does not exist at all. And when I painstakingly reloaded my projects in a new local directory there is no way in the world I can delete the old directory. I have to delete every .svn directory individually by hand. Sdelete from Systinternals (now Microsoft) does not do the trick.</p>
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		<title>By: thimios</title>
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		<dc:creator>thimios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot agree more with you.
I am using it for over 2 years and no matter what problem I am trying to solve,
it achieves to be the number 1 problem generator.
If you do a step in a the wrong order(e.g. committing before merging) you ARE DOOMED 
.SVN SUCKS SUCKS I HATE it .
I must find the time to change it with a simpler system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot agree more with you.<br />
I am using it for over 2 years and no matter what problem I am trying to solve,<br />
it achieves to be the number 1 problem generator.<br />
If you do a step in a the wrong order(e.g. committing before merging) you ARE DOOMED<br />
.SVN SUCKS SUCKS I HATE it .<br />
I must find the time to change it with a simpler system.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian M</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/07/16/subversion-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-53750</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my CPAP was running backwards, it still couldn&#039;t equal the idiocy of SVN.  I want true PINNING.  Give me 3 levels of promotion (dev, QA, release) and let me simply work in dev and unpin &amp; re-pin into QA. When they STAMP it with the seal of approval, I unpin &amp; re-pin my entire QA directory, or better yet burn a DVD of GOLD code and keep on truckin. this &quot;TAGS&quot; and &quot;BRANCHES&quot; stuff is the result of someone with no social life and too much game playing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my CPAP was running backwards, it still couldn&#8217;t equal the idiocy of SVN.  I want true PINNING.  Give me 3 levels of promotion (dev, QA, release) and let me simply work in dev and unpin &amp; re-pin into QA. When they STAMP it with the seal of approval, I unpin &amp; re-pin my entire QA directory, or better yet burn a DVD of GOLD code and keep on truckin. this &#8220;TAGS&#8221; and &#8220;BRANCHES&#8221; stuff is the result of someone with no social life and too much game playing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/07/16/subversion-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-53178</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a version control tool.  The point is to prevent pilot error.

If I was willing to use a tool that required process to make it work I could have zipfiles with time-date stamps.  But if somebody didn&#039;t follow all the rules the system breaks down.

Enter svn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a version control tool.  The point is to prevent pilot error.</p>
<p>If I was willing to use a tool that required process to make it work I could have zipfiles with time-date stamps.  But if somebody didn&#8217;t follow all the rules the system breaks down.</p>
<p>Enter svn.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Svn is a good implementation of a model of version control which is being rapidly left in the dust -- these are not my words, I read them on Joel on Software, but it&#039;s so true I wish I had said it first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Svn is a good implementation of a model of version control which is being rapidly left in the dust &#8212; these are not my words, I read them on Joel on Software, but it&#8217;s so true I wish I had said it first.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2007/07/16/subversion-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-21829</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not pilot error I&#039;m afraid... wish it was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not pilot error I&#8217;m afraid&#8230; wish it was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to ask if you have used other version control systems (e.g., CVS, Perforce, whatever) before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to ask if you have used other version control systems (e.g., CVS, Perforce, whatever) before.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Fogel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Fogel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, are you sure you&#039;re using it correctly?

The error above is what happens when you try to commit from an out-of-date working copy.  Just run &#039;svn update&#039; and try again.  If there are any true conflicts, they&#039;ll appear in your working copy for you to resolve (and if those occur, they&#039;re not due to Subversion, they&#039;re due to the data itself, and any version control system would require a human-assisted merge at that point).

http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ has more information about the checkout-modify-update-commit cycle, and information about resolving conflicts (although they&#039;re usually rare).

I don&#039;t think what you&#039;re seeing is a problem in Subversion.  I think it&#039;s (probably) pilot error :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, are you sure you&#8217;re using it correctly?</p>
<p>The error above is what happens when you try to commit from an out-of-date working copy.  Just run &#8216;svn update&#8217; and try again.  If there are any true conflicts, they&#8217;ll appear in your working copy for you to resolve (and if those occur, they&#8217;re not due to Subversion, they&#8217;re due to the data itself, and any version control system would require a human-assisted merge at that point).</p>
<p><a href="http://svnbook.red-bean.com/" rel="nofollow">http://svnbook.red-bean.com/</a> has more information about the checkout-modify-update-commit cycle, and information about resolving conflicts (although they&#8217;re usually rare).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think what you&#8217;re seeing is a problem in Subversion.  I think it&#8217;s (probably) pilot error <img src='http://www.theotherblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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