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	<title>Comments on: Artswipe: Light Night Leeds 2009</title>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2009/10/13/artswipe-light-night-leeds-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-53330</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Jon, it wasn't inappropriate, far from it - my blog doesn't send me emails when people comment (argh!)

As I think I said at the beginning, I only saw a VERY thin slice of what was on. And if you chose a "project stuff onto a wall" approach AND used community input AND it worked, then more power to your elbow.

I'm not sure if I agree with you claiming the "amateur highground" though, I'd still like to see some pro works as inspiration.

I'll be in touch, thanks for the comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jon, it wasn&#8217;t inappropriate, far from it - my blog doesn&#8217;t send me emails when people comment (argh!)</p>
<p>As I think I said at the beginning, I only saw a VERY thin slice of what was on. And if you chose a &#8220;project stuff onto a wall&#8221; approach AND used community input AND it worked, then more power to your elbow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if I agree with you claiming the &#8220;amateur highground&#8221; though, I&#8217;d still like to see some pro works as inspiration.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be in touch, thanks for the comments</p>
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		<title>By: jon beech</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2009/10/13/artswipe-light-night-leeds-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-53304</link>
		<dc:creator>jon beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry if you don't feel my last post was an appropriate response.

I was serious when I said I'd love for you to get in touch so we can talk about a collaboration next year.

please give it some thought

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry if you don&#8217;t feel my last post was an appropriate response.</p>
<p>I was serious when I said I&#8217;d love for you to get in touch so we can talk about a collaboration next year.</p>
<p>please give it some thought</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: jon beech</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2009/10/13/artswipe-light-night-leeds-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-53303</link>
		<dc:creator>jon beech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is, Light Night is a rough and tumble of art events by amateurs (such as us the stuff we did) and iphone toting creative Herberts who really ought to know and do better. But unlike an evening spent channel surfing, you get to look the *talent* in the yellows of their eyes and tell them to their face what you think of them.

As someone who spent a fair while getting groups of Bengali and Chinese kids to learn and produce stop-animations to be projected "onto a wall" at our event- kids who brought friends and relatives who never darken the door of traditional arts events - I am proud to open up civic and arts space. If you want to deride such activities as box ticking go ahead. But make sure you also count the number of chinese or bengali people you have even spoken to in the last week, let alone involved in a public art event...

I too think view most things labelled as interventions are a pile of wank but the point of the light night events team is to take a punt on unknowns (like us) as well as more established crews (such as lumens).

500+ people turned up to our event - double what we expected. Of those 500+ more than 350 left us comments - unanimously positive. Perhaps they were patronising us. Perhaps they thought it was a pointless self-aggrandising exercise in indulgent art-toss. Perhaps they thought our fragile egos couldn't handle the truth. (We didn't lock them in btw - we allowed people to vote with their feet) 

A large bunch of professionalised art events is utterly against the ethos of Light Night. And asking for similar is to miss the point entirely. 

If getting involved isn't utterly infra-dig, drop me an email and you can help us out with next year's gig. We could use some more talent ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is, Light Night is a rough and tumble of art events by amateurs (such as us the stuff we did) and iphone toting creative Herberts who really ought to know and do better. But unlike an evening spent channel surfing, you get to look the *talent* in the yellows of their eyes and tell them to their face what you think of them.</p>
<p>As someone who spent a fair while getting groups of Bengali and Chinese kids to learn and produce stop-animations to be projected &#8220;onto a wall&#8221; at our event- kids who brought friends and relatives who never darken the door of traditional arts events - I am proud to open up civic and arts space. If you want to deride such activities as box ticking go ahead. But make sure you also count the number of chinese or bengali people you have even spoken to in the last week, let alone involved in a public art event&#8230;</p>
<p>I too think view most things labelled as interventions are a pile of wank but the point of the light night events team is to take a punt on unknowns (like us) as well as more established crews (such as lumens).</p>
<p>500+ people turned up to our event - double what we expected. Of those 500+ more than 350 left us comments - unanimously positive. Perhaps they were patronising us. Perhaps they thought it was a pointless self-aggrandising exercise in indulgent art-toss. Perhaps they thought our fragile egos couldn&#8217;t handle the truth. (We didn&#8217;t lock them in btw - we allowed people to vote with their feet) </p>
<p>A large bunch of professionalised art events is utterly against the ethos of Light Night. And asking for similar is to miss the point entirely. </p>
<p>If getting involved isn&#8217;t utterly infra-dig, drop me an email and you can help us out with next year&#8217;s gig. We could use some more talent ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't get you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Eland</title>
		<link>http://www.theotherblog.com/Articles/2009/10/13/artswipe-light-night-leeds-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-53301</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Eland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.. for clarity's sake; you didn't get it? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. for clarity&#8217;s sake; you didn&#8217;t get it? <img src='http://www.theotherblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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